Arriba Capital’s Ryan Bosch said while bank lending has slowed down,
private lending, debt funds and even life insurance funds are filling in the
gap.
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Investment Today is writing a series featuring interviews with hospitality
experts about the current state of the hotel refinance market. Today, we
interviewed Ryan Bosch, principal at Arriba Capital. For Part 1 with JLL’s Kevin Davis, click here. For Part 2
with Peachtree Group’s Jared Schlosser, click here. For Part 3 with Berkadia’s
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NATIONAL REPORT — Compared to companies who broker larger
hotel loans, Ryan Bosch said his company is “probably seeing drastically
different things.”
Bosch is principal for Scottsdale, Arizona-based Arriba
Capital, a debt equity advisory firm which deals almost exclusively with
hotels. He said Arriba typically does about $1 billion in financing annually;
traditionally, that’s been about half in new construction loans, 25% in
acquisitions and 25% in refinancing.
Bosch said Arriba is in the middle market of the hotel
deal space (below $100 million — its average deal size is between $25 to $35
million). He said some of the rules and outcomes are different in that space.
So is the amount of activity.
“I’d say the sub-$20 million check size, that’s where
we’re seeing the most activity from lenders across the board, but specifically,
your bank/credit union lenders,” he said. “It’s risk more than anything;
lenders that historically might have done a $100 million check say they would
rather spread that risk across three $30 million deals today.”
Slowdown in bank lending
Bosch said lending from banks is still available but has
slowed down. He points to regional bank lenders and the fact that they
represented 40% of the overall hotel debt market in 2022 (that dropped to 36%
last year, and he thinks it will drop even more significantly this year).

Arriba recently closed a cash-out refinance for a Hampton Inn in Folsom, California. The $17 million loan came from a regional bank.
Bosch
said banking has also pulled away from limited-service/select-service assets, which have historically received about 60% of its financing from regional
banks. However, the market has changed, especially after Silicon Valley Bank’s collapse
in March 2023.
“Now that we’re having this liquidity issue and
heightened regulatory issues with local regional lenders, that’s causing the
biggest dislocation in the market right now,” he said.
Bosch said he’s hearing a common story these days: hotel
owners have always banked with the same three to four lenders (usually local or
regional banks) historically over the past 10 years, and now they have a new
refinance deal coming up and expect the same. But they are getting a surprise. “They’re finding that’s not the case in a lot of
instances right now, and they’re having to go out of the market and find banks
they haven’t done business with or looking into the CMBS or the private debt
fund market,” he said.
At the same time, Bosch said the private debt funds are
probably more liquid right now than they have ever been, and that is being used
for bridge or short-term floating-rate loans. “There are some different forces at play… We’re seeing on
a pure investor level a lot of capital going away from equity. [The capital]
might have entered a hotel deal as a limited partner, but now is funneling into
the private debt markets.”
Bosch said traditional banking lenders are looking to
lighten their portfolio. “The liquidity issues are making them less inclined to be
out there actively growing their loan portfolio,” he said.
Bosch said other fundamentals like elevated interest
rates and less cash flow available for debt service aren’t helping the market
either. “There’s still some fear from banks on where hotel
valuation shakes out,” he said. “Because of that, they’re decreasing leverage.”
Fully funded PIPs
For bigger refinance deals, financial experts have said
owners now often need to use more equity to partially fund PIPs, but Bosch said
that isn’t necessarily the case for smaller-sized deals. “I’m not seeing as much of an issue in bringing new
equity to the table as others that I’ve heard… It’s very market-specific,” he
said. “Especially in markets where it has recovered to pre-COVID levels and
beyond, we can finance that in, and we’re not seeing a lot of new cash being
brought in to cover that PIP.”

We’re seeing on a pure investor level a lot of capital going away from equity. [The capital] might have entered a hotel deal as a limited partner, but now is funneling into the private debt markets.
Ryan Bosch
But Bosch said in markets that haven’t fully recovered,
“those are tougher situations where we’re saying that cash has to be brought to
the table.”
And whereas preferred equity has become a bigger player
in the capital stack for larger refinance deals, Bosch said he doesn’t see that
trend as much in smaller deals. “I see more preferred equity chasing deals than I do
executing on deals in our space,” he said.
More refinancing activity
Bosch said Arriba is definitely on a pace to do more
refinances in 2024 compared to the past few years. “Over the last 18 months, [owners] that didn’t have a gun
to their head on a maturity coming up were able to extend with their existing
lender,” he said.
But Bosch thinks more forced refinances are coming. “We’ve seen an uptick in that already, where we’re
refinancing deals that might have extended once, maybe twice,” he said. “Now,
the lender wants that off their balance sheets, and now we’re in the market,
and we’re going to refinance it elsewhere.”
Bosch said new construction loans are “definitely a
tougher bucket of capital to place for even bank lenders right now.” But he
also said some banks are still actively doing those deals.
Different types of capital
Life insurance funds are playing an increased
role as a capital source, according to Bosch, primarily as a senior lender but now also doing permanent debt and bridge loans.

Historically, we’ve seen the most appetite from life insurance companies on larger institutional check sizes and lower-leverage deals. Right now, we’re seeing an increase in appetite from life insurance companies… they’re able to get more yield on hotel loans than they are in other assets.
Ryan Bosch
“Historically,
we’ve seen the most appetite from life insurance companies on larger
institutional check sizes and lower-leverage deals,” he said. “Right now, we’re
seeing an increase in appetite from life insurance companies… They’re able to
get more yield on hotel loans than they are in other assets.”
Bosch said there’s more activity from debt funds, too,
which are taking a bigger share of the market than they did previously and are
easier to work with than banks. “But
they’re a short-term solution. They’re not out there offering fixed-rate
long-term permanent debt,” he said. “Typically, if we’re going the debt fund
route, it’s a bridge loan; it’s a short-term gap while we execute a business
strategy on the asset.”
Bosch said where debt funds are taking a bigger share of
the market is for new construction loans where leverage is down, and interest
rates are causing a lot of deals not to pencil. “As far
as capital availability, we’re seeing a bigger dislocation, where debt funds
are taking the lion’s share of that business,” he said. “As muted as lending is
today, it’s probably even more muted on the construction side than the
permanent debt side. We’re seeing the lion’s share of those deals go towards
debt funds.”
Bosch said tertiary market deals are seeing new lenders, too. “We’re seeing
some increase in allocation towards those deals where the submarket makes
sense, and there hasn’t been new supply in a while,” he said. “We’re seeing
lenders that wouldn’t typically lend in tertiary markets start lending,
especially on the debt fund side. Those deals are getting slightly easier to
execute than in years past.”
Bosch also said lenders are getting more creative,
especially with private debt lenders getting capital in the EB-5 capital market
for construction loans in markets that hit the guidelines.
On the whole, Bosch said most financing deals are still
competitive with lenders, although, on average, a smaller amount (three to five
offers) than a few years ago (maybe 10-15 offers).